But city defenses are particularly painful for them. In general I find it best to-even in the countryside- find a strong position, goad them into attacking, and then stand like a rock as much as possible, refusing to be baited out except to run down routers (and even then.). Neutralize those and you will seriously kneecap them. The Mongol and Timurid strength comes from momentum, manuever, and firepower.

Hopefully I can use these tactics to crush these Mongols by sending fast units around the streets to positions where they can block the retreat of enemy units.ДЄs for elephants, what I do is focus on making them run amok by using fire arrows and/or gunpowder weapons.ДЄs with field battles, it is wise to elimiate their generals early on.Д¬an my mounted crossbowmen go one-on-one with the Mongol mounted archers? Those are the absolute killers for me, is those mounted archers! Its, literally, a machine gun in the Medieval world If you don't have the missle advantage, I suggest you try to eliminate as many as possible BEFORE they reach the town centre - e.g. If the enemy is defending, and retreat to the town centrre, I'd suggest you wipde them out with missiles, if you have the missile advantage. In sieges, heavy infantry are a major factor - so bring your best.ДЄlso, whoever is defending has a huge morale advantage if they are fighting in the town centre. What are the best tactics in sieges? Does bottlenecking work with them too, even with their elephants? What are good tactics in sieges? Ballista towers are all built. Sieges are most likely gonna be how our forces engage. So what are winning tactics against these guys? I'd heard that retreating to bridges and other bottleneck areas are good against the Mongols, but I doubt I can rely on that tactic too much, especially in the North. The Timurids have taken most of Turkey, and the northern Holy Lands. The Mongols either glitched or somethin, but they wandered around for awhile before settling into the Kiev region and expanding into Vilnius. Originally posted by Jack Skellington:In my Grand Campaign as the HRE, I have reached that 'lovely' time of when the Mongols and Timurids begin expanding in Europe.

This works at least sven out of the ten times I've done it so far. Fortunatly in most games you have the hidden option: get them to fight each other. The Mongols are qite easy to deal with but the Timurids are a little harder. Their guns will shank light cav if they get caught in their fire and heavy cav will be crushed by elephants. Be very careful of doing this with the Timurids though. Stone walling works quite well, espeically in your situation, where I assume you are up to at least being capable of producing quality troops.ДЇor actual sieges, spearmen as always are good and riding out to disrupt their masses of archers messes their formations and morale up. Trap them in their own territory (easiest to do with the Mongols in eastern Poland) and then deal with them one army at a time, falling back and rebuilding after hitting each one. Destory their ships whenever you see them. If they actually try fighting you, limit their movement. I have never truly seen a clever Mongol or Timurid AI, which places them under many of the European factions (who can have moments of brilliance in different games).Д«asically if all they are going to do is sit there, build up your forces and crush them one city at a time. Sometimes they just conquer their spawn regions and the general area around it.

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